Ok, I don't
intend to get into another long argument about this, I have neither
the time nor the motivation to do so right now... but, as usual,
viewing the transcripts for these interviews are
enlightening
Transcript
for the March 16 interview (its google cached, so it might
disappear eventually, but the word "nuclear" is highlighted -
yay)
Skipping to the part you quote:
MR. RUSSERT: And even though the International Atomic
Energy Agency said he does not have a nuclear program, we
disagree?
VICE PRES. CHENEY: I disagree, yes. And you’ll
find the CIA, for example, and other key parts of our intelligence
community disagree. Let’s talk about the nuclear proposition for a
minute. We’ve got, again, a long record here. It’s not as though
this is a fresh issue. In the late ’70s, Saddam Hussein acquired
nuclear reactors from the French. 1981, the Israelis took out the
Osirak reactor and stopped his nuclear weapons development at the
time. Throughout the ’80s, he mounted a new effort. I was told
when I was defense secretary before the Gulf War that he was eight
to 10 years away from a nuclear weapon. And we found out after the
Gulf War that he was within one or two years of having a nuclear
weapon because he had a massive effort under way that involved
four or five different technologies for enriching uranium to
produce fissile material. We know
that based on intelligence that he has been very, very good at
hiding these kinds of efforts. He’s had years to get good at it
and we know he has been absolutely devoted to trying to acquire
nuclear weapons. And we believe he has, in fact, reconstituted
nuclear weapons. I think Mr. ElBaradei frankly is wrong. And I
think if you look at the track record of the International Atomic
Energy Agency and this kind of issue, especially where Iraq’s
concerned, they have consistently underestimated or missed what it
was Saddam Hussein was doing. I don’t have any reason to believe
they’re any more valid this time than they’ve been in the
past. Hrm. That's slightly different than what you
quoted... He did say "... We believe he has, in fact, reconstituted
nuclear weapons" though... But even a common sense examination of
that language does not lead to the conclusion you want it to go: How
exactly do you reconstitute a weapon you never had? Could it
be that he really did misspeak and said "nuclear weapons" when he
meant "nuclear weapons program"? If you read the entire interview,
you'll note that Cheney says that Saddam is just trying to get or
produce weapons (or will try to get or produce them), not that he
already has them. He says this several times. One would think that
if he was seriously trying to mislead the public into thinking that
Saddam had nuclear weapons, he would not repeatedly suggest the
contrary several times during the interview...
Transcript for the
September 14 interview
The part you quote, in full:
MR. RUSSERT: Reconstituted
nuclear weapons. You misspoke.
VICE PRES. CHENEY: Yeah. I did misspeak. I said
repeatedly during the show weapons capability. We never had any
evidence that he had acquired a nuclear weapon. Huh.
Interesting.
~tallman
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